Comments on: Active States on the Cheap http://jasongraphix.com/journal/active-states-on-the-cheap/ A journal of art, thoughts, and projects by Jason Beaird. Thu, 09 Sep 2010 19:08:52 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Brian http://jasongraphix.com/journal/active-states-on-the-cheap/#comment-1270 Brian Mon, 08 Oct 2007 18:48:56 +0000 http://beta.jasongraphix.com/journal/active-states-on-the-cheap/#comment-1270 Amy, I figured that was the case. As I re-read my comment, I realized it was confusing and decided to attempt to clarify it. B Amy,

I figured that was the case. As I re-read my comment, I realized it was confusing and decided to attempt to clarify it.

B

]]> By: Amy http://jasongraphix.com/journal/active-states-on-the-cheap/#comment-1269 Amy Sun, 07 Oct 2007 17:00:28 +0000 http://beta.jasongraphix.com/journal/active-states-on-the-cheap/#comment-1269 Oh, now I get it.. :P. That huh wasn't aimed at you Brian. My complete lack of understanding about anything that looks like this: <li><a href="1.html" class="chocolate">Chocolate</a></li> <li><a href="2.html" class="hazelnut">Hazelnut</a></li> <li><a href="3.html" class="coffee">Coffee</a></li> <li><a href="4.html" class="cake">Cake</a></li> was the real reason for the "huh?"But maybe the other readers understand more now :). Oh, now I get it.. :P. That huh wasn’t aimed at you Brian. My complete lack of understanding about anything that looks like this:
<li><a href=”1.html” class=”chocolate”>Chocolate</a></li>
<li><a href=”2.html” class=”hazelnut”>Hazelnut</a></li>
<li><a href=”3.html” class=”coffee”>Coffee</a></li>

<li><a href=”4.html” class=”cake”>Cake</a></li>

was the real reason for the “huh?”But maybe the other readers understand more now :).

]]> By: Brian http://jasongraphix.com/journal/active-states-on-the-cheap/#comment-1268 Brian Fri, 05 Oct 2007 21:23:16 +0000 http://beta.jasongraphix.com/journal/active-states-on-the-cheap/#comment-1268 Wow, I just re-read my comment I think I was thinking faster than I was typing. It makes little sense if you don't know anything about the web site I'm taking over or what was flying through my mind at the time. I'll try to clarify. It'd be easier to understand if I didn't omit names to protect the innocient. Basically, what I was trying to say is that the current method to navigate said web site seems tedious. My new method should be more straight forward b/c I was going to rely less on the css to position each navigation element individually but, more on the css to control the layout of the navigation as a whole. My method takes about a third of my main stylesheet while the current is about three quarters of the stylesheet, 100s of lines long and scary to read. I also need to dump the current idea of using an image to display headers in fancy fonts and use the <a href="http://www.mikeindustries.com/sifr" rel="nofollow">sIFR</a> technique to replace text with a flash representation of the same but, with the fancy font. This keeps me from having to open my image editor just to add a new page of content (and later make content creation easier). Finally, I'm fustrated because we got the layout from a marketing company our marketing team contracts with, and the layout will need a lot of tweaking in the future as I hopefully get our marketing team on board with some of the newer ways to use the internet for marketing. Wow, I just re-read my comment I think I was thinking faster than I was typing. It makes little sense if you don’t know anything about the web site I’m taking over or what was flying through my mind at the time. I’ll try to clarify. It’d be easier to understand if I didn’t omit names to protect the innocient.

Basically, what I was trying to say is that the current method to navigate said web site seems tedious.

My new method should be more straight forward b/c I was going to rely less on the css to position each navigation element individually but, more on the css to control the layout of the navigation as a whole. My method takes about a third of my main stylesheet while the current is about three quarters of the stylesheet, 100s of lines long and scary to read.

I also need to dump the current idea of using an image to display headers in fancy fonts and use the sIFR technique to replace text with a flash representation of the same but, with the fancy font. This keeps me from having to open my image editor just to add a new page of content (and later make content creation easier).

Finally, I’m fustrated because we got the layout from a marketing company our marketing team contracts with, and the layout will need a lot of tweaking in the future as I hopefully get our marketing team on board with some of the newer ways to use the internet for marketing.

]]> By: amy http://jasongraphix.com/journal/active-states-on-the-cheap/#comment-1267 amy Fri, 05 Oct 2007 00:18:42 +0000 http://beta.jasongraphix.com/journal/active-states-on-the-cheap/#comment-1267 huh? huh?

]]> By: Brian http://jasongraphix.com/journal/active-states-on-the-cheap/#comment-1266 Brian Thu, 04 Oct 2007 19:35:31 +0000 http://beta.jasongraphix.com/journal/active-states-on-the-cheap/#comment-1266 It looks so clean... I'm eagerly awaiting the day I can take over the design of the nav. section of the site at work. To add a menu item, I have to add code to the nav include and the main stylesheet. If you do your math wrong in the style sheet, stuff vanishes from the menus. My current prototype is light years ahead of the mess we have now. The new implementation will use SIFR to dump the text/images and an unordered list for the nav. I have to keep the drop downs in the current design but I want them to go a way the next time we re-do the layout. I wish the marketing group that designed the layout allowed for at least a bread crumb trail. It looks so clean…

I’m eagerly awaiting the day I can take over the design of the nav. section of the site at work. To add a menu item, I have to add code to the nav include and the main stylesheet. If you do your math wrong in the style sheet, stuff vanishes from the menus.

My current prototype is light years ahead of the mess we have now. The new implementation will use SIFR to dump the text/images and an unordered list for the nav. I have to keep the drop downs in the current design but I want them to go a way the next time we re-do the layout. I wish the marketing group that designed the layout allowed for at least a bread crumb trail.

]]> By: Bojan Janjanin http://jasongraphix.com/journal/active-states-on-the-cheap/#comment-1265 Bojan Janjanin Wed, 03 Oct 2007 14:26:33 +0000 http://beta.jasongraphix.com/journal/active-states-on-the-cheap/#comment-1265 I use a similar technique. Instead of adding the class attribute I put and id on the li that doesn't contain the link, but pure text. This way, the user won't get confused and will have one more thing to tell him exactly where he is at. Of course, some server side scripting is needed to do that. Your example is suited for pure HTML, but I thought I'd share this anyway. Pseudo code: (if this page = chocolate) <li id="current">Chocolate</li> (else) <li><a href="chocolate.html">Chocolate</a></li> I use a similar technique.

Instead of adding the class attribute I put and id on the li that doesn’t contain the link, but pure text. This way, the user won’t get confused and will have one more thing to tell him exactly where he is at.

Of course, some server side scripting is needed to do that. Your example is suited for pure HTML, but I thought I’d share this anyway. Pseudo code:

(if this page = chocolate)
<li id=”current”>Chocolate</li>
(else)
<li><a href=”chocolate.html”>Chocolate</a></li>

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